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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: lundone
Date: October 05, 2008 10:44PM
Jim, I think it turned out to be about 20 to 25 feet but Al and Mike would be a better judge of the majic depth.

Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: walleyesrus
Date: October 06, 2008 09:20AM
The fish were holding in the brush just inside the old shoreline in 25 to 30 fow. Day 1 we were able to trigger a few fish to come out and eat a crank on day 2 they would not. The key to triggering fish was to get in shallow then use the mft on the trollmaster to trigger the bites. Kind of tough on crankbaits. We only caught eyes on two baits a Deep Taildancer and a pearl colored #7 Flicker Shad of which we went through over a dozen. The fish were right on the main lake points. The winners caught all their fish jigging spoons, they basically point hopped picking up a few fish on each point then going to the next on a mail route.

Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: powerdive
Date: October 06, 2008 09:45AM
Congrats, guys. It's not easy down here, even for the pros. Tough to be consistent.

I would REALLY like to learn more about the spoon bite on Bull Shoals. To me, spooning is just about the most fun way to catch fish in the whole wide world. What do you look for on sonar?

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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: REELXTC
Date: October 06, 2008 09:45AM
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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: powerdive
Date: October 06, 2008 10:21AM
Oh.

Thanks, that really nails 'er down.

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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: October 06, 2008 01:48PM
Arches.....the more the better.
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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: walleyesrus
Date: October 06, 2008 01:54PM
A lot of the fish were right on the tips of the points although we caught one of our keepers on the side of a long point most of our fish whether keepers or shorts were right on the tips, we would cut across the tip and speed up just when our lures started to tic the brush, we would either get a fish or a snag, problem on Sunday was keeping the lines in the water as we were catching so many smallmouth frequently we would only have one or two lines in the water at key spots. Really a pretty easy pattern to figure out, Fri we caught fish on probably 10 different points so Sat we concentrated on the ones where we caught keepers. Lost one good fish or we would have had a little better lead going into Sun.

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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: REELXTC
Date: October 06, 2008 04:03PM
Thanks to WRU for "toughing it out" on Saturday.

He wasn't feeling well, so I probably had less than "half a partner" for Saturday's derby.



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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: point12
Date: October 06, 2008 04:48PM
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walleyesrus
The winners caught all their fish jigging spoons, they basically point hopped picking up a few fish on each point then going to the next on a mail route.

That about sums it up in one sentence.

We tried bottom bouncing for a while, and thought about pulling cranks several times, but decided that we needed to do what the fish wanted - not how we wanted to fish... :-)

And yes, my arms are still sore from jigging for several days..........

More later- gotta go,

Point12

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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: October 06, 2008 05:06PM
PD....that was a tacky answer to a serious question. It was uncalled for and I apologize. I also want to ask God to help the pygmies in New Guinea.....so having done the right thing, I will pass on what we did on Saturday to catch fish, and to blank on Sunday.
For us it was a pure trolling game. No kicker, no electric, so it was the two bag system developed by JC 1 and JC2 or nothing at all.
That has worked for us all year, and we really did not feel badly handicapped for lack of an electric up front.
I put out three leadcore lines....one long rod on the shoreline side and two shorties off the back. The fourth rod was a long Cabela's trolling rod that I put a linecounter reel with 10# mono on and we longlined that, both with and without a snap weight. The big fish came on that rod with a snapweight in place, but after losing four snaps (the red Church's model) that don't come cheap, I went to straight longlining with a variety of lures about 200 feet back. The banana lures from Cabela's did not work well in the large size.
Those bad boys like to "hunt" and they went looking for any small crankbait in the area....and found them quite often. Rich kept us on a 30 foot contour on Saturday and I was running anywhere from 155 to 175 feet of leadcore line, with a standard mono leader and several different crankbaits. We noticed that with the clouds and overcast, the gold/orange color attracted more strikes.
We did basically the same thing Sunday, but the weather was completely different.....clear, bluebird skies, but a nice chop coming in from the south. We caught fish all day....lots of smallmouths mostly, but could not coax in a legal 18" walleye. We were fishing the right depth....24 feet or so, but I was kissing the top of the submerged brush, and that just didn't convince the walleyes to come up and investigate. We left a LOT of lures on the bottom, but I think we have enough to get us through a couple of Stockton outings before the ice gets too thick to cut a path out to the main channel.......
I gotta put in a word for our host lodging.....Driftwood Resort. We have stayed at some pretty nice places over the past couple of years, but Karl Kastendeist and his family have worked a miracle with the upgrades at Driftwood. I heard nothing but positive comments on how nice Driftwood was. If any of you are ever going to Bull Shoals for a stay, you might give them a call. Great place, and really nice people who run it.
CW



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"Dirty Harry" Callaghan

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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: REELXTC
Date: October 06, 2008 06:03PM
CW,

I can't afford to lose the expensive snap clips, so I use rubber bands. Just let 'em sit on the dash in the sun so they break easier.

I use a half-hitch to attach the rubber band to the line. If your weight has a small opening, attach the rubber band to the line first, then use the line to pull the rubber band through the weight. Bust the rubber band when you reel in the fish.

BTW: I learned this little trick from Capt. Candle many years ago.



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Re: Good Luck at Bull Shoals
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: October 06, 2008 09:04PM
I knew about the rubber band trick, but had not planned on doing any snap weights at Bull. I had brought along some 1oz weights that were intended for use as droppers on a 3way, but without an electric motor, that did not sound like a good idea. I found an old rubber band on the floor of Rich's boat, looped it on the wire ring of the weight and then looped the whole deal on the line and snugged it up. Worked great, and I even pointed the system out to Rich. Somewhere along the line the weight got in a bush top or something and that was the end of that. The system works, though. I have a mold to cast bottom bouncer weights from 3/4oz up to 2oz, plus a small wire bender Billy'Boy gave me a few years back, so I can (and have) made quite a few "el cheapo" weights. I just didn't have them along. Last time I looked, those plastic clips and cast lead weights were about thirty bucks per kit. I'm sure it's up
over that by now. The rubber band system looks better all the time. Oh....most building supply stores carry extremely cheap stamped metal clips with a plastic coating on the snap edges. I have a couple of packs of those that I want to try out, but I think over the long haul the rubber band method will be better.
CW



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