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Trolling rod angle
Anonymous User
Date: August 10, 2008 09:32PM
I have noticed on several web sites and pics of trolling rods being above the boat
by at least a 45deg angle. running 4 rods.
I was taught that the closer the rod tip to the water the deeper the bait runs.
I have found that to be true.
So why the pics of the pros have elevated rods and does the trolling bible have
any thing to do with rod angle?
i.e. #5 shadrap at 100 ft runs at XX ft Rod angle does not mater.
T:

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Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: lundone
Date: August 10, 2008 09:41PM
Terry,
I run the two outside rods with the tips close to the water so that when I make a turn the the line does not go over the boat and get tangled up otherwise I know no reason for keeping the rod tip down. Then again there is a couple of things I do not know.

Re: Trolling rod angle
Anonymous User
Date: August 10, 2008 09:57PM
There are lots things i do not know. But i do know, the higher the rod tip
the shallower the bait runs. Try it sometimes in shallow water humps.
TL

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: walleyesrus
Date: August 10, 2008 11:20PM
Normally the only reason you run rods at a 45 degree angle is if you are using planer boards. You need to keep the line out of the water going to your board so you elevate the rods. Church boards especially don't run well if your line is dragging.

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: steve fellegy #49
Date: August 11, 2008 07:56AM
Lee's dead on! The ONLY time the rods are pointed upward is when using boards. Flat-lining mono/ leadcore-- the rods should be parallel with the water or even pointed downward a hair. Sometimes, with waves rocking the boat, longer rods DO need to be a hair higher so they aren't slapping the water all the time. I hate that! lol

#49

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: materman
Date: August 11, 2008 08:47AM
sure glad I did't mount my rod holders yesterday, as I would have put them 45 degree thasts why I hang around this joint, learn something every visit so are holders adjustable as to angle? please keep it simple.

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Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: August 11, 2008 08:58AM
MM......your rod holders should be adjustable as far as the angle of the rod is concerned. We often change the angle while out on the water to compensate for big waves, etc. The rod(s) that do get a little bit of elevation in my boat are the pair or shorty rods that are usually pointed straight back off the end of the boat. They need a bit of help to keep the rods from being pulled out of the holders in the event of a hang up or a big fish. It doesn't take much, but it is something to remember. Also, picking the tip of a shorty rod up is not quite the same effect on lure depth that a longer 8 to 10 foot (or longer) rod has. While we use the line counter to keep track of how much line is out, remember that the "normal" depth to line out ratio does not start until the leadcore line actually touches the water, and with a long rod pointed UP, that could be several yards of dry line that has run by the counter but is not part of the depth equation.
CW



A man has got to know his limitations.
"Dirty Harry" Callaghan

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: walleyesrus
Date: August 11, 2008 10:30AM
I also run my shorty's elevated for the same reasons I just allow a little more line to compensate, with lead line it isn't quite as big of a factor as if you were longling trolling mono or fireline.

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Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: August 11, 2008 12:08PM
Hey, WRUS.....are you implying that I actually do something for the right reason?????? I could learn to be a fairly dangerous individual if this trend continues.........:rofl:
CW



A man has got to know his limitations.
"Dirty Harry" Callaghan

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: materman
Date: August 11, 2008 12:18PM
is dangerous the right word? hummm let me seeeee any thoughts on this? Rember keep it simple!

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: walleyesrus
Date: August 11, 2008 01:01PM
I'm reasonably sure you're already dangerous, although we probably aren't talking in the same way.

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Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: Bob1
Date: August 11, 2008 05:21PM
Well he is " Half Way" dangerous.

Bob

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: bullitt
Date: August 11, 2008 07:04PM
That's why he runs his rods "Halfway" up!

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Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: August 11, 2008 08:34PM
I knew that would draw some comments. At least I'm not out raiding catfish jugs. I don't even let them touch the carpet of my boat.
It leaves a slime that stays there for days. Unfortunately I tend to hook a fair number of channel cats while trolling, so I keep a set of large pliers to de-hook them before they are brought onboard. Same with white bass. They leave the boat smelling like licorice.
Yuk!
CW



A man has got to know his limitations.
"Dirty Harry" Callaghan

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: materman
Date: August 11, 2008 09:00PM
C.W. please do not encourage a catfisherman to switch to walleyes I {we} have a hard enough time catching one walleye {still to happen} but sure it will somedayand you can man the net

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Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: August 11, 2008 10:48PM
I got nothing against catfish. I grew up down south where catfish and hushpuppies were considered a feast. I'm just thinking of the guys I have fished with who have boats ranging upwards of fifty grand who will not allow a catfish of any kind to be brought over the gunwales. I don't know any catfish specialists other than old Wolfie from some years back, but most of the catfish boats I've seen out on the lake are big flatbottom aluminum rigs and are well suited for what they are used for. No carpet to soak up catfish slime, modest horsepower outboards that get you out and get you back, and coolers or plastic barrels to hold the catch. I would not want to try to run a trotline in my boat any more than I would want to troll all day sitting on a hard aluminum bench and get pounded in a flat bottom. Those guys do their thing......I/we do ours. I will take it at face value that the forum was used as a warning to leave the jugs along. Perhaps the choice of words was less than perfect, but the message was received loud and clear. If you guys don't want to look at it, at least four other people have the ability to make the entire thread go away.
CW



A man has got to know his limitations.
"Dirty Harry" Callaghan

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: materman
Date: August 12, 2008 05:09AM
There is the possibilty that the juig could have floated near some ones boat who was drifting along dragging a nite crawler and/or it could have tangled on a guys line { I caught my own maker line last week by accident and had to lift it to get my road runner off it> many things happen when one is fishing and not all are good . Hang ups, over runs, I in the past caught a couple of guys running my trot line they had the line in the boat and were taking a fish off it , no doubt here , but in Fishy case there is some doubt as to if this is some one actually running his jug line or Fishy jumped the gun and accused with out weighing the facts

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Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: August 12, 2008 08:07AM
Back to the rod angle discussion: has anybody else noticed that as your rods get older they tend to be more flexible and just naturally have a lower angle? One of the pros brought this to my attention a while back, and after checking it out, by golly he was right. It's a slow process, so you might not notice it right away, but eventually this loss of angle of your favorite trolling rod will occur.
Fortunately, all the major rod blank manufacturers have been aware of this for years, and have devoted lots of money into quick fixes for the eventual loss of rod performance. :devil:
CW



A man has got to know his limitations.
"Dirty Harry" Callaghan

Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: materman
Date: August 12, 2008 08:25AM
yeah right. its raining and can't go outside so its on to the forum sorry C.W.

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Re: Trolling rod angle
Posted by: coyotewhacker
Date: August 12, 2008 02:55PM
You can't make up stuff like this. Really. One of the older pros told me the sad story of his wilting trolling rod one day when the bite was kinda slack. I think maybe the same thing has happened to some of the guys around here who have had the same rods for a long time.
CW



A man has got to know his limitations.
"Dirty Harry" Callaghan

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